說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
) A. L! H* d0 u1 N) }' C% D学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 2 C2 T" P" J! `$ u
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 $ E- S% G H' C1 I( Y# C1 A8 n
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 + u6 K1 A' `3 o: y7 M2 S8 u

! A/ i# \# _2 o( q, O1 G( _! Y, O看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ( z$ A/ d; k. d/ \|. m6 t' A	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE F! w, _( I! H5 h' a$ F' D
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport7 \( k2 O' F5 H" d- W. [. q	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 5 ]* o& l! a! d) s
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 1 p+ i2 i/ P. \|1 S' ]5 o m	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX " L) ~: \|0 Q6 ^- X4 R; ]' g# O
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & r% {+ Q3 z4 L1 S+ k3 Z	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR57 o0 E4 ]( y% C' `; n; f
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 6 P! ~! w( p0 ^1 a% z3 x	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE5 Q. D7 q$ F. [. e
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE2 K2 J/ q4 z+ E	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX9 z) H7 ]! L* r" j
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid) ?& i% ~/ b# O& I	• 1996 Toyota Corolla " F; ~, ?* [$ r! h) S! A
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited: G# J, x+ r( x) t: K# Q% z	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 . D, [# x4 I" J: p
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE# H3 y5 \|0 n: d1 i* ^" Y7 g& m- m	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 7 \# V1 n& j/ e2 g+ O5 H2 s
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE . ^, B) j% g7 \; i, r) a5 u	• 1996 Toyota T-100 " b" b/ \! _7 n5 q+ b3 c
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE( [. s! E! {: F: V, v/ w5 f	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST 0 X0 T( C1 e; l9 p @1 A& {' d
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited4 o0 o4 c$ V1 P9 a& S: o	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; o$ {) W& n0 v2 ?5 H8 C* A9 _
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & G0 C& Y# S; z6 g	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX) j. o3 \|( L8 \$ g
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE T9 `# [1 u- C" u2 G& h7 x1 D# L8 p	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR53 `# Z8 d+ l/ `6 @
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 0 ?; S, S0 g& w$ s1 ^	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 4 z; S( \1 R5 w% P, I
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5# ^7 {( v y% Z7 j5 S* y	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX / G. I0 a5 ]3 `1 c3 ?7 `2 P y* c0 q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra # q/ _" @. a* {0 Y	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT1 @- ?# O8 r6 a$ v: T% G
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS# w5 V9 U7 X3 G0 _	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ( m" O4 s% ^3 p9 J- F8 m" X+ y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL / a- r6 D; W% Z5 O0 R$ q6 h' L	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 6 r$ _6 b3 I: q6 W% _" t
• 2006 Toyota Prius + O9 Z, F9 B" f9 X. p	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX w6 g3 d# v- y& W r! O+ q# _* l
• 2006 Toyota Camry ! i; y- b J# z. ?5 B	• 1995 Toyota Pickup ( H C5 ]9 c( k! @
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring" F, X1 {' U j* V0 S	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 5 z1 n+ Q: d1 c5 O% N
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma ; {* A9 J& N5 t. h	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE , c0 I7 F# Q( J4 b5 I
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE0 ?( a$ V0 s/ l, O: L$ K0 F" r5 Q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton* f% n x' [1 r
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited* m- F# x+ c! r& b7 D	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5, W- A5 B$ p1 _! l
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner * p% W+ q' K( n$ p$ n8 h	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 F. A5 m" B( s8 }
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR53 N7 o: ~0 @7 Q. u+ q" C	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 8 ?) L2 I p3 h% t- @( T( z
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S; p- F8 W6 \. x, e& @2 Z- s	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX b( ~# f. Y `8 x
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ( Z3 H9 C# u9 _, ^" r; k9 H( z	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ [; s% k3 N& m% a2 O, p+ \8 \
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE/ d$ w: v& o. R! v* L9 a	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 0 T B6 J0 }) [5 X& J9 e
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ; J/ o' s# Z: N3 v5 j% D4 n	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 5 Q/ K9 X$ E1 D2 H6 b1 L
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX : {: t5 _8 J; {0 x
• 2005 Toyota Tundra - q( x' R& K2 C( R5 q- c0 }	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 0 G1 b( M, f$ j# l) {/ r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS / X1 k7 \|" _/ D5 E) \) s) O	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX & K" q3 M U" F2 n* V* W' z5 T
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5; t A* ]2 ^! v0 o& t# Z1 j	• 1995 Toyota T-100 7 w/ ]2 \|. I6 ]% T6 e$ e
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited D( G/ {; l9 }5 Q2 S, f x	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 8 u+ `7 a5 L/ L; ?2 B, y+ k/ F3 D
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL ! R1 _: F+ j2 W. P	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ( {7 N$ E6 n6 m9 n8 T' C) \
• 2005 Toyota Camry ( U- z) _8 E0 x) }	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5( R$ ~8 ]% V- A4 L0 j% C7 \|
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring . e" C! K+ U4 l, j+ }	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX- e! x% m" q+ J% S N/ \|& M! {+ L" N
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE" {! U* j" S/ Y. g	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX% D' w M+ @! s
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE3 _% p+ d$ k' g% F- c) \4 K/ _5 _	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 2 \/ ^. T& ^0 T" w" h
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited0 \|5 V, d y8 B	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 + Y, d" V' c4 F9 @9 ~
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 6 L) n5 h5 H, S( p	• 1994 Toyota Pickup / M/ y; g3 `5 m9 \|2 s4 B6 I
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S% _0 r. u; n) M- v; F	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE ; a6 J5 v5 {) [4 N. e3 n
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 2 p. {/ c: Z: c& r+ D( {1 I/ X. l	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE. m( a L% v7 r0 `7 o
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited. R. V, U* R% b; [4 @	• 1994 Toyota T-100 + [0 N/ ?7 A8 ^
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR53 O2 U8 M7 a. @9 D) y	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5( f3 i5 S0 }5 g0 X9 F( ]8 p* E; k1 ^
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 4 [ N6 [4 g, _* i Y9 k! }! a( L	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE q5 o. K# b9 r
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 , p* r4 F; w t4 A9 r) Z7 `: p	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX! P' p" d" u7 u' W$ U Y' \
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS0 F! D( O6 w6 \	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 [2 J9 Y! S' N; Q. B9 v" Q. p( H
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE$ B: A3 B9 X7 {3 ]- B3 m	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE $ x$ f, m4 Y0 O3 P1 i) C	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 5 `( p7 T8 H7 ?( y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited, x& e3 M$ X: w: z& K/ `	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton, n& @- p, M9 ~3 V2 }: m2 n) Y
• 2005 Toyota Highlander / e6 ~/ j: b7 l	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE ' e# X* N0 v7 m+ Z W
• 2005 Toyota Prius " O* M# Q u3 e& R: A	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 9 ^6 {. m5 Q" z: N" _3 o
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 9 y1 z' ]5 J% T* _	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton, n% T f7 L8 b1 r' E
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE1 {* T) x1 i$ X- j# X	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR54 V1 C& k3 Q- V k# F8 s. g
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited- O* v% u' M Q; ^6 \8 t	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX $ a" q: u a8 v& A# V. J
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5+ ^7 v6 [' w6 v1 I9 S; _' Q* _! c	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX* J+ l* {+ L/ O# {6 C
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE0 v; ?) b' F$ V3 c" F Z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX, X0 \6 e5 ]+ c6 f8 U- T
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE! q7 A9 X6 @/ J9 \	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser % [& r0 u$ R" E% D
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE / \0 `8 m- h T0 Y* {% ^	• 1993 Toyota T-100 / }+ J0 v& \| T& D6 _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE : x& O" W; s( d* g& Q) ~2 p( V	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE, E6 {; R0 s7 ^4 Z7 b. J9 q
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited # l$ w# ^, T9 b4 y. @	• 1993 Toyota Pickup . Z9 M! o a D" }( \|/ \|6 t) e
• 2004 Toyota Prius - k' Z) r) @1 j7 q% C3 b; p	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE* ?9 i/ }, s4 P O8 E
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma - p) j' G5 P- y! {	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE1 N6 i/ J' y' C
• 2004 Toyota Tundra . ~ N2 N/ _8 r1 W1 X	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ( {+ h- b/ Z, V6 K: ^/ m1 i
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE! J6 [0 K' k6 p8 v	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 E% S/ `5 }1 ~0 k) ^: W
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited0 E7 ^5 ^2 i, O. G& [9 t- P	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE1 z$ Q5 O. o- k$ x- s5 N0 O
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 D! A) x0 n$ F* u* L, _2 Z	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE9 ?# @7 n: m$ v$ w, b. h
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE ) J# ~; [% y' L	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX$ E0 ]1 ]8 C/ X# g8 _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE & l5 g. @6 e/ E' y/ K5 n& _! I	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE2 U5 i6 d2 Q/ \/ j
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE " k7 q. \|4 W6 E1 o) s/ {% r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac c# Z/ t1 Z C; L/ R" z( O
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ( c* ~# s6 X4 \|( A. m' I) L; ?	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton1 E/ n( v: \- J2 w0 J
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 1 o. `9 d4 J, p b8 l. P	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE2 L- E+ E& u) O1 J( ~% S
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner1 \|2 C5 I" F( t' A" D& L9 w0 z( `	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 0 K& x: f+ Z; a. h% { i) X/ e7 H! R
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S. m# t6 ^7 [7 A0 D	• 1992 Toyota MR2 . q2 z; [( V" U( x4 @$ o- o
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; ?6 s' r- `! \|+ n# X# i9 L( Z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 7 ]$ s0 j- M3 N, u9 i% J" E
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 7 d, z+ r/ _" ~* l, p* _- p% }; q	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX7 A* \% l7 \, j( I5 M* S- _
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS' `/ e& k5 x+ l0 R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac7 \4 B8 E. D4 w- J8 ~" ?
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ! f( F; m2 }. P5 ?9 a- S/ O	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 H/ E \1 t9 E' I5 C7 B
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S, F# L8 K ?0 w; C4 I' U	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX & W/ a+ z0 L: j: z" [7 q
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited8 I( F8 I9 x& p, N* M7 b6 w5 m	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 1 e; m) w2 a9 z$ {/ J; u8 p
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ H8 t& d0 l* Z	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 j a% v2 c5 W7 J" A, Y
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR56 t- e: c, z/ _	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof - ?/ Q! T& j0 y2 }0 U
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited9 V& P, x$ c5 }: y0 F	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE : a p0 p. E1 c2 `7 l
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 2 H4 ?9 g/ H: P	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! T2 Y, _1 T# m
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT$ v0 \|9 l* \|2 r" }	• 1991 Toyota Camry 1 k$ w; a, ?" A' x# f/ c' M8 j5 l
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE7 B: {( Y% c0 B, D; a5 s	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 u) Z. i8 F' x8 S
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ) ^( m' m2 a& C; f4 s/ w	• 1991 Toyota Pickup . s B$ \3 g; w. j" C8 ^' i5 \
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ) ^+ }$ s- T# o8 y5 F	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ^6 j" u/ m, c6 D$ `- k
• 2003 Toyota Tundra $ _" U9 k0 ~& S3 G	• 1991 Toyota MR2 2 a1 R/ U. G/ R
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE* L. Z) l4 K) U6 X/ `% {' v& _5 B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5# b8 F: Q+ Q2 e' u6 r/ @; I
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited* X r; l9 G5 _/ X' R" Y	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX # C u, E" a+ T) Z
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 2 F6 X! \3 T+ `8 N+ ?+ [2 r# F	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 1 p+ F0 J) w* j8 u3 T( }, o
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5- t5 d- D0 P# t* a) c; J- E	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ; s" O7 D0 i' K8 Y$ j
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE 9 M& r" W [ O: K	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof # ^, G- ^/ j+ q6 f+ E% g6 X* q
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE% p6 x4 i' f2 Z& \|; E/ d	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX) P8 W' c e [; G, N( R
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited / R/ @; ~+ j2 M6 p9 `2 @	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE * v6 M/ V" g3 a. a. ^/ n
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 3 c* Q# ?9 @( {8 m$ r% B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 8 k1 q' a& P) M' o/ }. i1 R3 O* ^
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited& A' r3 p! F. D3 C4 t	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 4 C: q# N5 M9 @4 q8 B! N8 V7 Q2 L6 R
• 2002 Toyota ECHO . t. O/ z' W9 B7 }7 \ e& }" Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE & n6 j9 V6 G1 K g4 Y+ V
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE5 Q! V* B' c5 E, p# E	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 . G+ A) N! B& u5 c
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited & \|% s. Q, S$ ?" J; I8 V& H" I; \|	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ; K1 J, q, }2 ~/ \|
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 6 a4 \& d8 y4 C- M* [! \	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT5 C9 g& ?8 ?, k( X* q$ h, G
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT2 o1 C+ f% \|' z8 b% t8 G$ r& a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base4 v6 w- `. d, h( D) b
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 8 R8 l _" k# _; n; T q& Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry # r# A6 k$ Z; C0 ~* `9 f5 [' X
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S- \|! _. E8 e8 d& Q: F	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST % s3 c% w9 i. g7 }& W( K
• 2002 Toyota Highlander " t1 t+ M& D5 D& C	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX3 ~, e& Y) X" n
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner5 p9 C1 _- e* X+ T	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ) H* x6 T& k6 \
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5+ O- s; z1 Q& o# R6 G L* Z7 N* W	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5* l) u6 e* E. j) r
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR50 U; E" K) d% ^. t' E( ~( i5 P# f	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS+ k# Y) k; V" a6 j: ]) d
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE ) T1 h0 E# \|3 y( k7 ]- z8 y	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ; {. p M% e8 r# _( @
• 2002 Toyota Prius / [$ h/ z" S" [: d' B8 N	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 5 c9 L7 T5 y+ c& \/ r
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 a' P6 E8 i& G D8 p& L E+ i3 [	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX 7 o# H+ e: b3 V" P& t
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS5 t9 o* H# G- Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac; f( A1 R+ t" U \|0 A- V- \* u
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE % r8 @( S8 a, ~0 E d% h9 [2 ~	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac / ]5 I* }. s& Q: ]# ^5 Z* i
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 2 N0 l% k1 z* S- \|0 j. a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 4 e# V$ u9 {' i$ _. }6 ~( H+ X
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 7 j0 W I% h% c# J6 o( s6 }" ~6 A. T	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac1 G" F4 g# s* R+ Q7 J; g O
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE* p$ L; D6 k# l! i! @! H. E	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac) y# x6 R7 Y4 x5 I3 Q: A
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE , i l6 h& }+ a+ E- R	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger " r5 C" `2 D: ?+ a$ j6 B
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL. G9 A3 k) X/ \" p% h	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base + C+ @5 ?4 z Z. R" F" S( L
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited . }' ^ n+ o8 {9 t2 t, V/ I( C# [	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac - `# X# o0 i9 J$ }; z/ P
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ( L6 G& X" r. n	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 ~6 `" i% e9 a1 M* \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE/ B% W% r# l7 C	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE3 U. b# x/ W& t* h
• 2001 Toyota Prius ! I) h! w4 ~2 ]	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 N: k8 ~: f# c& y& e2 n9 \|9 @0 z) I
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 8 i" c/ S/ K. \|" r	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 3 ~6 ` g+ i r7 t' y9 ]
• 2001 Toyota Tundra # i/ c) C& P" c, u% S1 q	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger * k% \9 [$ @7 ^+ v+ J
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 1 L K3 E/ F' b	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX) b" t( e1 a8 M2 `" ~; g1 r* G
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited + \0 z8 K3 `) n7 P: H7 y: ?0 u	• 1989 Toyota Camry : y: z: `* r; `- B+ u7 F
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 V; t% d$ e+ q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel ; a/ I6 X: q% Z$ @( D4 m/ K
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE : V/ a. J. b5 ^7 I9 L7 }; @; r	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX/ _+ {: p# `' S6 a
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE $ t7 W3 u) k2 W8 f8 z) Y2 Z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ; P8 l6 p9 K8 Q! ]
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 8 X& _: r9 E& e	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5( ^, m1 b6 E9 ` B! c: k) k, C F4 T
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 M1 ~& s6 O. S& v( z	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger3 O u; s* d( I/ ^2 L/ s
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE2 C% K' w' k" x" u$ b: K6 N1 n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ! T6 }' e) m3 o! g
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ k* p3 O D/ _1 e' l- K, {	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel" s% t$ @4 p5 z, G5 ]
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner' \|9 K- j! W5 }# a0 i	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 5 ^( R+ O6 e4 B' k y- k4 \|/ @
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS. ]8 D( g0 I' o9 b( ` W	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ7 ^2 k5 E1 e9 x( k: F3 Y: Z( {
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S : \|% Q1 g @1 S" N) Q/ i	• 1988 Toyota Camry # e4 c& G! A: A
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! j- G& s, _# L w& q$ [6 J9 n# t! W	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 8 R7 D- O. Y! `! R8 n* I
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5. c' z7 u8 R9 W8 \1 {	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger0 \) X% i; L' v
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE , n- N+ q! G7 T6 j6 G( t4 N	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX# p3 @, E4 u9 k
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ' Y9 X% M* Z1 J- N5 d. v	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ~$ D$ b+ h/ a$ B5 Q q! [
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited8 s/ `. z% L3 S# f	• 1988 Toyota Van DX . `% Y0 `5 ^9 g( V& x6 d0 r* U; c; p
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 0 N- d, r) r/ ~4 v# H- }	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger/ u G/ n* V* @. j0 L6 j+ c
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 3 r9 y6 q1 M+ u5 R' d	• 1988 Toyota Tercel , @. O* B% H% X, N) @( B8 K4 H
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT4 G" z2 m7 y6 n, t# r' @9 f+ U' Y	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE9 o# F: u5 d/ a
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE& q+ W; {2 e: n. ]5 D/ k	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window 0 E5 r5 f# \|$ _! R4 p1 M
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 % Y/ b1 E% z) l! ^ {" _/ B	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton + _6 m* O7 X! N5 ^1 B5 p) Q
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ g4 B `9 u' N8 s' ?- ^* Z	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser , Z- B/ {" j/ a7 K6 P
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 8 C8 X, x' `( z0 h2 o) H& O	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5+ V9 ~' D, ~, O5 ~( F, d! \|) [5 ]) k
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 h; V" Y' y" J; Z) _	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ! S0 \: \|+ P4 [5 X9 ^* a
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE! U( u4 b7 F# X7 p. p	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B& C3 d5 {. [/ m, J7 m
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS6 R9 R3 I8 G; `' E: ^/ ~	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac + a7 t* R' B$ ~8 E, g+ [( c+ k
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ! V6 K `9 R/ M9 C5 p	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger % P2 J9 S# G4 i1 {
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara $ r+ v" C' P: k5 K2 _3 Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR52 _3 o5 e) S" o, a! y
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited6 I1 K- k( P1 m5 s/ Z1 F$ P	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX( }$ @0 X3 r' A( D7 J
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 8 C) ^4 Q/ m/ G( _9 v# T# H x& v	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 8 K" ~2 F& A6 f! D8 h' U9 c% s; S
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ! F D! [' q6 F	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) W5 x6 l6 q% s+ H( W- j
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE % D) X j! b: _% `- \	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 q$ u) _ l+ W6 G" \
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited % D& m3 G# O( A( \0 S+ ]) S9 C. `$ a	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE1 k' U5 P" W7 c
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 1 i3 r0 H" J, H& N	• 1987 Toyota Van DX - K7 Q# W- X$ ]) U3 P2 l/ R9 t% \|
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE6 S* ]* P; a8 H) ^" o/ N/ ?- C	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window! H% f) {$ Z; L& U0 u
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; k& m6 T8 _+ w" P	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton , F) b4 U- D: w" s" g/ Y5 L7 y/ v
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 0 q+ g; W0 m' ]" x B% _% \|	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 , q8 B: e# }- ]
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL ( }( X3 ]0 v( U$ e	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX' U! h0 r; ^) f$ u" \|
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 4 e7 \8 q& S' x9 L s# Y	• 1987 Toyota Tercel / B5 X2 S0 ?4 O, [7 G
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE / M0 P- x4 x! \	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 5 A# S# o. C, B+ c4 ]
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5* F+ [* t! Z( h- j! N7 s	• 1987 Toyota Van LE0 \* Y7 C: n; ^8 a" b/ ]$ u7 R% t S5 H8 J
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE! J( Z6 s3 Z0 B	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel9 F+ o* P$ Y4 S1 }
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE u# i7 o1 ?: l$ C	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX! q$ o2 M' E W: [- t' C$ d- R
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma & L% V8 W# W3 i9 n$ i& P	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 5 O1 ?; L; B/ l# v
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS# H7 Z. ?1 z" t3 b- v7 @	• 1986 Toyota Van LE+ m7 t q) j- V7 N4 M4 V
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE6 m* O/ m; O7 {/ `/ I+ X	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser . b8 n; _; J: e7 c! W
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& K" a4 V. b+ [& h5 `% ^/ ]	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel. ?$ @2 H$ i* r. ~# G$ ~
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 o& _8 l& X+ H' H+ j	• 1986 Toyota Van DX& ]( \7 L1 h1 i. K% H+ S; r
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 2 h- L" l" J. Y: I9 b/ @1 Z2 a	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window % l0 z8 j; ?1 K8 m2 E
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE6 c( L4 ]' Q4 l4 i! ]4 B7 A	• 1985 Toyota Van 0 j3 z, U4 D; P E2 I
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE # y; Z- x, x. Q% a3 ~* G0 [5 f8 [	• 1985 Toyota Van LE0 Y; y9 C. Z2 Z' X, u
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL/ k2 \6 i2 b$ T, w	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 0 P E& ^$ e0 }. e. x# \|4 K) q
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE; ^. ?! n6 [3 e4 D1 D	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 n0 r1 O1 Z' @ n
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited - \|1 E4 L& V! X& {! I	• 1984 Toyota Van DX( g+ ~) W; L0 N( r) ~ F3 J
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 3 {5 z! ^- n6 M) d. w4 g	• 1984 Toyota Supra % g- _) U7 u2 ?" n) _
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE* C/ p7 y* Z' u$ P: v8 ^	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX3 X, z, v. b# g \|( T* K3 W
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE7 x0 q0 o+ Z0 b( E6 C, R0 K0 I	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser * Q* w' Z/ z0 z$ A6 q- a/ j
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited0 }, v3 d1 ]4 N7 @	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 5 Z; s" R3 w% L7 w
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS+ ]" R. O, n" D+ i; v+ Z	• 1984 Toyota Van : ^0 \# D" n8 Y& z
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE6 S0 c' h& s3 U& M	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE3 a1 d! J; C3 N! F( \
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner + E) \|, x% d7 U) Q/ [: t3 i2 w	• 1984 Toyota Van LE # n, d- W9 o+ S
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE t& ~4 y4 R7 ^# \	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE, h% W; b* @: G9 {4 m& Y- S& ?! ~
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 8 R9 c: u2 l* j. Z2 P	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 ( E1 x7 V: _! e# b \|' \|3 J
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 o) l7 j+ `8 K- C2 U	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX. Y9 k1 \|1 n V. N
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 3 R0 l! \|6 K1 v( ?	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE * v* N1 \|0 D, w# d% h) m
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE" _3 g7 S' \|1 n	• 1983 Toyota Supra % J& S/ a& t$ o! V B: z5 c$ v' P8 N
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma - H) t+ x2 O8 O0 i9 s# [6 V0 `	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser - k( a0 \|$ B$ s6 }$ R6 L
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL- x4 V- Q2 v1 P) }1 l4 U' n9 \, T	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX Z! _5 N9 H8 F/ u, v
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE % s9 h8 B& j9 W- d- \	• 1983 Toyota Cressida - T! P" m( i0 J! R5 c& \1 O$ M
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! }( w/ S! l# L" g1 ^) e+ `	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT # q7 E# P3 ~! `- Z
• 1998 Toyota T-100 " ~9 i$ C( i+ K" x& m# R5 H	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 C/ E! o0 ]0 t4 s% A! T( M
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited* {" c1 ?; d# `	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 2 J1 V4 Y7 h# q
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE( o8 v9 w- d5 _7 {; O	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX; N2 N! k c+ ?! ~
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 # V+ S! V/ g- d: c1 v	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST9 B% r# G$ e/ t2 h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5/ b+ e) ?( A# }+ g/ W" u( _0 c	• 1982 Toyota Tercel % a+ ]* R5 L2 I) l ]
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX$ o6 e2 ?, F" i6 K- ? ]1 e% ?	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ; y' [! j" r0 u# ]7 d w2 O9 w
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma S B8 N( M3 }9 s	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 8 l+ T9 o! {. @5 R# r" ~
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS1 `! D. {7 J4 H	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5+ m+ p& F# f- d4 y9 b0 m
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 8 Q7 x) R( K' _/ m2 e( ]0 N	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 \ T( A1 C* v6 \2 B5 V
• 1997 Toyota T-100 % c+ K S# m+ N& @	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX ; g6 o1 z8 f# [3 r
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 Y- r1 o! ]& G) }- \/ k2 \% }+ ]	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 5 \7 b! k+ t6 l
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 9 o+ u9 N" c! r0 j7 _. {	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT - w. o- g9 V+ Y
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5$ I" i$ K9 W0 }6 v2 V	• 1980 Toyota Corolla ' o" L: B' J* D) t7 e& l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla . W( s7 O: E) ?9 M7 d1 g	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser + Z+ U0 b+ b$ S. V3 Z
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5. j, H0 k, b! @9 I3 Z; U9 f8 ~8 I4 x	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe+ ~+ ^* V% H) N& a1 n2 C
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL ! p% T3 v0 X! U( X" X, q; D; E; K	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX; {8 E+ [2 T O! ?
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE c+ n D1 F+ L9 `	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST ' V/ f) @; U c0 G9 L) R( ~" h, u
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner " P% J" G0 }" F3 F; S	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury ]; u. {1 ^, a4 x9 H
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE $ K& B ?2 I! [3 G! ]	• 1980 Toyota Tercel ! l! x! A' R1 \7 Z% V
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ' I$ @7 f, N2 x# z9 `	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5; d; l5 }, d% z8 j+ e' i" D4 [
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX5 c# t" V: S$ k; Y1 N \|	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe4 O- q% L" v8 j/ f) p# A. o; _ H
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE0 h+ o% c6 ?+ v8 F! ^	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR58 Q5 \|$ u( r5 F) V% D, d
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5" s5 q0 P% U" H6 k

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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) ~* B' C. p6 N" c如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：1 T% O" g, \: z( B2 K
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
6 Q" t( m- S# b) x3 _" b. k; b' D9 M• 1997 Toyota Camry CE U J+ j! u. B; V+ e; h
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ! E) @- p5 U0 D
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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" Y5 t3 P: ~! ^$ }+ n$ Z
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
2 B U7 | ]! t9 w( g
% S1 _* J) n: |% Y R# X由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：: B. }! @8 ~; G) V) N

/ r1 I1 i* I8 t3 J- V3 H! K1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；. O4 }& E# u( x+ C! @1 U
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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