說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 " D" V) k4 L4 o( V# I8 r# Y
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ) B1 |- d, J0 A
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
5 ^; }2 i+ m/ ~" `' Y6 G楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 * l! M( ^8 U2 ?& e3 b
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 7 b& [2 ]+ M' J
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0 C9 `8 O( ~% j: h8 @不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE 4 I# \|/ G* _8 A3 d8 T) k	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 1 v% B, \1 N: V
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport. M$ ]2 \|7 Z7 K9 T3 U1 N	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE# T( J% s! ]4 V( j4 k1 q. \7 J9 V
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE! \|; v! p# t# h	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX ( g5 N: z; p. ~
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 w/ S9 Y$ ]' \! \) s/ Z* Y5 v$ B	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! h: c! B `) [
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE! f* u; N) X) m7 E9 w& k, Q	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE # K6 ? M2 i5 M, X2 _' g1 \
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 8 R9 n1 S+ x0 ?/ B8 e! b: o	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX , O7 W$ j/ t" X' [. W/ u' d
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid + p+ j( p0 V; N ?" Q0 j9 P	• 1996 Toyota Corolla $ B) v7 M/ I6 q2 R% m; k
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited0 v" T; ^& v* P3 E% i	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5" {$ Y7 A- w3 i5 G+ Q' N2 K& e! N
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE$ V' ~: Z, u8 _* Y& \. _2 T' [	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE* Y/ r [% _/ _, x
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE* K+ }$ `* W6 ]! t! @	• 1996 Toyota T-100 7 l8 f `: U; w& n
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 3 Q3 \|, g: v( ^# K	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST , n+ d* z$ ^2 p; r* U* ]6 ^
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited! b5 i; ]) i# C2 \|1 T% q7 X& d( \	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 2 \|: Z% G( i" `7 q! Z# J0 e
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: p' n* s c8 D& I7 t% \|	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX * N, A# V) O5 H8 K
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE: z* F( B% c; Z* q1 A9 ^	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR50 _# d6 G6 E/ l3 o! x* r9 c5 U1 Y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE1 Q* E0 \% s3 `1 ]. N \7 a	• 1996 Toyota Tercel , v1 ~- ]! w3 j, V. `
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 e9 P7 A; b" M' z8 b$ ?" S7 w	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX# j3 A; p. M/ ]/ _' g: G2 }4 z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra ; E. U! }/ {1 W f* c	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 7 ?) t o. m; O
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS" {2 Q, A0 q+ x0 c+ n2 G	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma & N2 E) j1 ?( D0 K
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL, d0 R. J5 a8 R8 Z2 t/ O	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ' L, T \$ S/ k% c* m/ B
• 2006 Toyota Prius 8 i( i. y5 H' I	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX6 Y- Z( c! z+ A
• 2006 Toyota Camry + m D/ B, E g/ ?5 G W	• 1995 Toyota Pickup ! k9 I" N6 f1 A1 }5 ~0 X* W
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 7 l, y' I% m8 s9 @: _	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE s5 ]4 s" s$ y' W+ s3 Q8 h
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 C1 E6 \|) M6 d! l6 [	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 8 \) V. `. V1 X! X
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE) c" V& W8 ~: Y/ k2 g9 r* V) g7 T1 r	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 0 J' r: z- h3 R6 t8 D* J& @2 e
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited , r6 R, X* q3 s* V	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 * \|9 d" R) u1 y4 S
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner( `" [4 Q- r; L9 m& N	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ! f+ Q% b- R& d: y4 r
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 p) E1 e. c! \4 g, v) d	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 2 ^) W- J$ u1 M5 y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S & O5 u6 I, g L; t4 A% V* X5 k	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX + d# ?7 P# K$ j3 _
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited * a8 p+ h' d O+ r- q8 j3 \0 E9 ?	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5) s2 w0 `/ G+ G: T, Y; \
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE # U4 c9 R4 X1 r7 Q7 J. y S9 q. x" x	• 1995 Toyota Tercel N2 n( ~; e$ \|2 f/ D& H. a- _
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ; `' P/ T4 N; L( D8 h- [	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 6 I @# Z6 I0 l7 R- j4 `2 a6 F% d
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & ?2 s5 s# m2 P& o5 Q* M* {	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX. b2 a0 N, X8 _4 s
• 2005 Toyota Tundra % `' P" t; g/ Z! Q: v7 ?	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE6 P2 _0 y0 {% l+ c$ G3 ^* y. F- M2 ~/ R
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS3 U+ Y$ [: g& w' d% {	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX+ n; H' p* k! Y
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1995 Toyota T-100 3 c/ J% }3 y: t1 k! s; M1 Y6 g! L
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited+ l* x6 @$ n) x) B$ v	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma X K9 F* {4 B" o( \' c
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL / E$ Z& N* H9 u$ A8 P' B	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 7 j* c4 \! @+ F1 o# N
• 2005 Toyota Camry 0 @! R8 B, q. O. N) Y" x/ Q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR56 ~% h( J9 ~! `3 [' E- p, @4 Y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring$ L+ K1 R4 m h; i) Y2 @# o; g	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX" Q0 X$ I9 r$ u& F. b* q# Y
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE/ X9 o, ]* Q0 A( S* m6 U; _& O	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX, z( K( h, h" a1 F% O
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE # m: }& F+ N4 Y0 P, f: D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX ) B- e9 n* E1 n3 }5 v
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited! b& @2 l6 l s* {; @	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR59 e+ U9 e, L3 K y2 @" _+ F
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma # f% N d2 L" [5 {6 ^7 }	• 1994 Toyota Pickup $ \|, E" F0 [5 {! ^9 ]% ]4 F( x
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S & E# \|4 P+ \+ \|; T1 L	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE # B: p0 x# Z0 y% t
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE" U' Y* @& R% R! W( s0 z) J$ e	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE / C5 _, ?7 t- R# P; P
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 Q, A/ T1 t: o- H: t x" E8 Q	• 1994 Toyota T-100 / S) k; e7 Q' }5 _% m+ S2 u1 y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5- }# e3 K( b( q" d- N2 O	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 j* p2 m1 ]6 z- e' c7 `
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE( i$ p H8 T( @% N$ a	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 2 w* n9 E) i: Z2 F# K# T( g
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 4 @6 B* Q9 R" k' X% _	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX$ j, }7 h: i2 d
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ' Q: c0 n# K( v	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 " s8 I& J( o1 F3 F1 l
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE9 _2 X, d$ t6 J/ `) V7 [8 K4 M	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 8 q: }# U- B! ~% D% V7 w# l: U9 u( `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE/ U7 }7 e9 `( W	• 1994 Toyota Corolla # ~" k6 a7 ~; f; u6 B9 r0 W
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited5 b* ^: }( i4 E3 V3 O; `; B	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton# @% d: \, A! V6 B t6 Y
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 5 C4 W7 _. B) [7 C2 h	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE( {& M; F4 A, w- y
• 2005 Toyota Prius : r, A: @2 u1 l) d	• 1993 Toyota Corolla $ w2 Y% Z8 f6 T- q: R
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE( b: X% ~' K @& S	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton" \) b+ n5 W8 R3 L" K0 g
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE4 W+ E& E u4 D1 N/ K. w' L	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 g4 M8 U Y5 k* B" M% W
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ( e! F. C6 T; s0 x0 ]! D- R0 m	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX & V, a6 e1 e; g. r+ ]* a9 E/ V4 {
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 8 y' n9 s) [* D" t* B	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX 8 n# E' Y: V8 [0 u4 V* r9 z
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE/ O0 Q/ e: ~. _4 n	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX& Z. X- P8 \! y4 v9 M
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE z% J& r& R0 I) R! n$ @	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 K/ ~, c2 S+ l, v1 I H& H! s/ ^
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE - V' H" ]) `; S3 a* U- }0 V	• 1993 Toyota T-100 " G; [. D! X( G$ M- t' E( [
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE: J9 ^' I" T0 N	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE ' c8 h% \) [, ], O$ {
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited/ s- E: K \5 n9 H2 K2 ?) z' ?	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 4 c2 l ?2 h4 T, Z$ I) \
• 2004 Toyota Prius ) l& h0 B! x" c# A4 M ?6 I' k1 X# {7 I	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE + p% r5 F/ }# j/ `+ o$ W) f
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 7 @9 h0 a" Q/ X/ Z. T j5 C c	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE . G+ U! ?2 j1 D9 F
• 2004 Toyota Tundra : S( I$ t! I8 S0 r	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 c: H$ u. z. K6 R0 Y
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE# \|( o. O4 Q, I: d$ j7 V1 s; O0 [	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 `+ Q: y" W0 l! B t7 p
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited0 T- @9 Q) v5 h) G- V2 B	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE0 \|- W) O& C. X" C
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited5 R$ M8 p; v6 q, [" D% {	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE1 l" F! h) M) E6 Q- k
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE7 b8 @# ~3 ]& u. Y8 K	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX7 a" s; R0 K0 m6 W
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE - m) H9 R( D7 \3 O+ a C	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE9 q0 \|' t, D7 v2 A4 Z
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 9 ~# L5 o, E8 j. L' x; m6 a0 I	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac * Y4 V* l& G0 ^' H! l6 G# p
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited & k! O/ U4 Y" R	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 6 {4 S# B/ O6 C7 e( B
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 0 s/ S" N, l* @. a9 \|	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ' g1 i! R' f$ N8 m n% Q
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner / k* s! s' G) R9 _ W* l	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 9 r, q5 n! N8 G! {7 D1 o$ q
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 4 \|& o1 \|; c- B	• 1992 Toyota MR2 % o2 A5 t4 r/ H( p a2 R
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner' I f, H2 e& O! d$ H	• 1992 Toyota Pickup + ^- j9 M3 V0 P2 e2 B+ \+ V
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR59 T$ s) w/ i" j/ N* w- l( k	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX, }! ?* E' {+ ?, X. D1 w
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS/ x: w2 @1 `/ Q6 i* P: \|	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac; c7 I6 x6 r3 B1 o7 P
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner6 @! k7 u1 H ?! A( B, R) Y* n6 k5 U* Z3 `	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR55 H. b" M3 V) p I# T& O
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S + v% E3 J& m+ ]$ c" \|5 o	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX / R0 ?1 B3 R6 O- R; C( a/ g
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ' t* V8 h! y: \|) m1 r+ {	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 }' A! u# i( B* ~ m
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 I4 {1 W2 Z# W* Y/ A3 N3 v	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser % i" y4 B2 ]7 @; t+ @' N0 ]
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 , Y' D5 e* P8 r& n2 ~, `$ B: k' W	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof, }. [1 U# I( J1 [1 O4 K
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited4 A3 ~1 @: L# \|7 {& c) m	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE + b* `5 u% i+ e4 E1 Y5 G
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 2 E7 C4 k* ~, j9 u# s9 Y# J1 J	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ k" _7 X; f: M+ H5 S1 \|; f4 l" B* t0 \
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT5 D K+ I6 F) h, i8 t7 a" e	• 1991 Toyota Camry - p( F8 z. ` Q* e) P7 I
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE1 h+ ^$ j8 c3 m7 S) U0 p8 X	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser $ K; ~( G5 h- g y
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 6 \) {' E( g9 O$ B; R+ E& R	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 6 j: I5 \|% Y( q
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma u) _/ Q3 e0 I9 U' E& L8 Q; Y	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX0 Y) [: b/ `9 \|" V" P
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 9 L: \! I! q3 m& a, b% G	• 1991 Toyota MR2 : G2 x/ N& l& [. W1 o* a
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE , {- `& O$ j% z$ u+ j) [4 U	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 P4 m; @( ^8 p5 j: e
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited' c" \6 k; I! J" H, Z5 r& [	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX$ A) H9 W) N+ T( ?
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 6 Y; A" e7 \, A; s3 s( A6 s	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac6 M. v2 z0 r6 a; j) j3 G/ [, m
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 \|6 \6 B% g- e/ U	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac& e H* s! k; Z
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE( r8 v" q4 ?( V% B! u4 p' B	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 8 @( \|5 f* H+ P
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE * ^" @) j. G2 c: T& a3 h	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX: [3 l% Z$ H; I- X+ D4 v/ d D9 Y
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited $ Y% ]) L T" P; y	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE9 ^# \- o" _: f9 B8 B {/ C
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited& R7 C6 z9 c& P+ A- U0 p	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton2 U. [8 n/ U4 G4 g6 W; o
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited & n0 z2 L& l; v$ I8 j6 F	• 1990 Toyota Pickup # Z' ?5 D& L5 g7 n. N$ R# K
• 2002 Toyota ECHO . ~6 _& a; b: Y4 e	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE K$ O6 o3 q0 J$ {
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 4 }( A! n# r: K$ V	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5: I5 L" [/ o2 j9 Q5 e) z
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4 s S' a( T1 U; Q; h$ T	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ; b j7 L0 Q, M, \|3 j" s: y% U" h7 M
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE" w* p( A/ h& D) N* c% f4 O, `	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT7 Y9 z8 i7 J7 A0 ~- m
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT, Q, B" `% J5 e. e, X	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ! X3 }0 n, M; [3 p V+ j o
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ( E V4 p; \6 ?	• 1990 Toyota Camry / p7 t' c- d8 F4 n" C
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S 1 S: Y7 ~5 P, m	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST) @5 k: N5 j% ], R ^4 _) f- z
• 2002 Toyota Highlander , ]% J' S) G) Q7 A4 z+ r	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX3 s5 V' ]8 d7 p
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" p3 @/ Y8 O% s, H& b, U" f	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX* l5 r- ~( g; l' ?, `! k
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 * t' ]. V8 w: ?! ?) i	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5; x2 [5 @; H* Z% r
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR50 F5 H+ K" j* ?* X) n4 R2 d& m0 W	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS" C* i" V+ Q3 {4 {5 {! w) U
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE8 E7 t" I+ A+ ^" @# _0 X& m$ E- r7 L	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 ?% u4 C6 z5 o/ t: Q
• 2002 Toyota Prius 8 }. ~" s7 d$ z9 f3 N7 P	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton- C4 H! G( B" B/ W8 R
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & h; l6 h6 \|& S* i! a- w. W3 i3 q	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX3 `1 ?6 r8 j1 \|7 {( O7 }, \; J
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS - s6 [% \|* M) ^2 r	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac& n8 x3 e# F' _
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE # J9 N; Z- n2 P4 }: t' H	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac3 N2 c* V4 h4 n8 E4 G0 P' W
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma " T+ J' P3 o; Q& v7 F	• 1990 Toyota Tercel - h1 n1 g/ w6 u, C: d" b$ E
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 6 ]/ @# a/ z* O) q0 }	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac% F& t% i( v: f! O# C2 l; T
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE: s) \: r# {2 _! x$ h3 o	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac5 @/ H8 F: J5 r' I9 {8 T6 w
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 2 ` V* d5 L3 ]1 \0 j/ k& A	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger3 s# D7 V& S1 P. {
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 2 ^* [2 n0 R. S5 F; T6 B7 ~	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base; K. a" i3 U7 u: v# k2 _9 ]
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited - u/ k6 \6 w; w( t! S& }	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac8 {* \| d; e! l
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT " L% w. ?1 y& _' k0 o8 O: l; Q	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ' q1 Q3 O7 C+ d, J; c
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE' @6 F7 K$ p/ n( T	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE0 w) @; P" b6 H4 T+ i: {8 c& d
• 2001 Toyota Prius 8 f, N% `8 @: d9 i1 j	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX - m4 T- K4 w' n/ b
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma ( `0 P+ k' \| M, p) t8 e. L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton $ q. E2 C' f4 i$ j( z
• 2001 Toyota Tundra : F# p/ ~, U6 c/ L7 l	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ' B, r# X- Z" H v/ v* T
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE3 o/ k6 Y' M2 k$ _3 I! r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX # E o. R0 {% F9 Y" w
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited & p) j7 O; ]% E$ [	• 1989 Toyota Camry $ k. ?" ]# m/ V* [3 H* h: c; ~
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : z7 Y: J) U$ q; X# F	• 1989 Toyota Tercel . O8 i8 \3 ]6 i* v5 Q- Q
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE ) @3 ]. U! Q; i2 x; O	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX $ m( Q6 L# D2 n
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE" `& y. h* K* l	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ' R, H' r, v7 b7 n
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ; D- [ K+ O$ A- e! [	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5: w3 S% b, N& H8 C5 A
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ; @1 F+ {0 H% y% f9 _8 H	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger; W, t# K2 ]$ h
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE ; Q f+ \& L1 ]	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ! X5 R! u( B, v2 \' u; w' h
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5, O) {* B6 e- b5 H/ I# x0 j	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel . g, D5 W( q. M' S% i' L
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner. s( F4 s: S3 t' H: e	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 8 G' ~5 {# g% V7 U3 h+ ]1 b, \; H
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS+ n5 y9 q# C% q, g: k+ G! Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ; E" b. L! \/ V4 s
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S. E1 c7 Q* K2 X9 d2 g1 I& A; L6 E	• 1988 Toyota Camry $ g* }3 b/ N* B2 v* E. e1 t; Y. r
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# v4 g% e. g* Y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup " k. S- F! P& j8 i% [! ^7 X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR57 G* y* _ k0 O/ r2 N0 @	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ! {! D6 Y# G2 F
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE) V( M0 K9 N) g7 F$ Z# N	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX . _& ?# s# r( Q8 c2 D( t2 S' s! o
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 0 y' ]( c/ r* w	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 h0 B" N5 M7 C$ U( l$ Z8 R
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited f' G+ H# r1 g0 p% P' y6 s5 m% p	• 1988 Toyota Van DX, B) S+ B' N: F9 K8 O
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 3 l" \|# s& r: F6 u1 ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger # W0 [+ R' `/ A
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 2 m* C: g; O, n& O* A+ I; }	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ! `' E. H+ j# @$ k [3 [
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT - ^# }$ b# ?- {7 W# }! n5 j	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE # ?% H* G3 K' ?; O8 F
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE4 p! v4 i$ ~' m5 I% N) y	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window / ^" J0 K5 S1 b% k+ c3 n
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 / P1 g3 D: ^0 I; T( j; s' x) P	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton % K4 ?" Q' U8 s% q$ r
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* [/ }3 x0 z( Q$ g6 E& w9 K9 ~	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser + \9 S# X9 \|( W6 [2 W" ~
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ' \% l, N+ s6 _3 K& n, ~	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 , k4 \2 u2 Y, W) I3 f5 l
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited' m1 ]9 m6 V D: h* E2 U) X	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger9 W3 [" W' v' \|& i; z* e, I
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE1 S* O! y- v8 b8 d, g, ~" x	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B 7 Y; ?# X1 x2 g8 }) @3 z
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS & N$ B8 j: i3 c; N% Y* p	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac+ F k+ `# m; G- s4 Y+ {
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE4 R K! Z! k* z, k: H2 B	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 1 I& x% W0 Z4 g3 \
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara * X$ s4 Q* N) ?# k- T3 }* l7 C8 ~	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 , z- T3 \|" t) W @4 O
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited7 Q/ v. G2 @6 ]1 v	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX& i2 o: K3 Y5 b+ h
• 2000 Toyota Tundra + F1 A7 j& X( i5 i5 o; e2 V	• 1988 Toyota Van LE0 E% D: E& _: _4 { P" J' G5 H8 b% ^
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS K' ]! w1 X, d& V8 _	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser & T/ V2 [+ }' w1 n$ E
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE5 A# o, \$ L; y2 B. c% F8 B2 N5 z	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5- s0 N0 J- `) g8 h
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 c- b8 _3 f- C, N( E- Q& n	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 0 d/ ]+ \|6 _% s3 V/ F7 e6 Z
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 7 C* E4 _. z" J/ H, w	• 1987 Toyota Van DX - I% t: }( Z: _: e/ T0 \* s2 z
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 8 q% r: @' s$ b- Z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window # h8 ?" N+ h/ ?# W b
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 N4 B7 w- C& v* \ F	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton# x4 _' Y* W+ t
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE, N: R& m4 ]' r2 F4 r& k9 v; A	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 # S7 c' s: U3 h- v7 \
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL R9 I. _* G% S& X" R0 k2 N5 G2 F	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX! M% V) [0 E3 a0 q3 N* Z! U8 I/ ^2 _; d
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 5 N1 l8 u6 a! u2 w	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 7 b! F1 j! t/ I) U
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE0 y- D* R0 M& E6 O; h! S7 Z	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX) r7 c! w% I, c [ m
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR57 n0 A9 E. S/ c% }' r, z* U	• 1987 Toyota Van LE* G1 {! q$ ~2 f- r' C
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE1 ]$ W6 _- o- i5 E1 V3 D	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel . L* Z, D: {$ h3 s% a' k& ^$ n* Q
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE ; V. Z7 J/ i9 ]) W1 C0 Z% f	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX6 {" M' \0 ^; A5 s9 @3 N
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ' e- }# r8 \+ H. ~	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 9 j) ?" u+ u' c. M
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS" `# V7 N' z0 V# h) g8 z6 b	• 1986 Toyota Van LE5 R5 v# ?8 ~, p4 Y- t
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE. _, O7 u! o5 T" Z1 K4 N	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser & Z- R% V' l$ W( K) `
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ ?2 o% [) t6 a& f5 Y4 i: _) R	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel 3 F: Z4 V! E" o0 n5 [: W+ B
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 : O( H( m! m# m* s! \|	• 1986 Toyota Van DX ) Y$ A* s0 f6 r! j
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited / K, X9 \|, M3 r5 d& [) p. Q) G% g	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window " m2 D; ~ @& i1 V$ k, L
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE5 `3 Z9 z K1 q0 w. Q! j	• 1985 Toyota Van 1 A6 {+ g% _; K
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE # W& H4 l% C; A+ n; G" ^	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 8 f1 p+ z5 ]7 j7 p, q. S4 {- ~
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL / f' f7 \|5 h* d- z	• 1985 Toyota Van DX ; K) M$ s7 l- H$ ]
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE% F2 P J' V4 p' Q0 [	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 I& ]! }" z2 ?3 V
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited , ]1 ?- J# @- z. `. J$ _. r	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ; O$ m/ @ V' O/ b
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE; }' m% J5 r* J* _; F	• 1984 Toyota Supra , ]5 Y' K# j" i1 E
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE4 {* U0 H# s2 ~2 ?% E( o1 q7 X	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 8 O0 I" D$ F, y2 {2 T% S
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE; W' B, a, B& a9 R$ U- o# B/ A	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser & \|8 {* Q _0 m, t. U8 @
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited' F- \|1 U7 Z0 C" y8 S	• 1984 Toyota Cressida % F w0 n2 P D+ _0 l0 e) A8 J
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS% h6 ?; g0 ]' D& M. w! j( q	• 1984 Toyota Van - q7 c" {, E( w. Y; Z! k
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE5 c- n$ ?9 y4 K2 `3 P% i	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ) G( o9 {/ h* ?5 }: L% Y" m7 h: p2 R
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner # {- K9 D7 c5 }6 \|( A0 @	• 1984 Toyota Van LE( T" s' V- `; ~- O& x
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 5 U3 \: \|, F# S# ?0 C. H# V! g	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE1 `7 ~5 J! u- D! @/ F0 o7 U
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX ( B2 X4 A) t; p1 P. N8 G \|	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 " \# ^+ \ Z$ d7 A/ n* r3 I; V
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 6 {; y% q, @% R# u" E% `
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE# ^1 e# K/ g5 @5 C( \& X3 v; E6 q	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE % s' {8 `0 R/ t" H6 L
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE & X% C) S1 s8 z8 a, p4 p8 K6 }. ^	• 1983 Toyota Supra $ v/ g8 W+ F: c2 m
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma , \, K8 l6 T4 B3 G( [	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser % n% i T! w5 b1 G! L
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL7 x$ t: y3 ~) n3 E0 W& R! Y	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX& V3 t& @1 e9 i7 Y/ z+ O: P
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE : k- I4 i! h+ O! k/ [, e; ~0 s/ u+ @	• 1983 Toyota Cressida & g. e# a! o4 R
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / U! c5 ` z3 {3 o	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT0 z5 p' W l, ^
• 1998 Toyota T-100 , e% P& c. y# d' W( B( u	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser _8 g1 F0 s! \|
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) K" V. {3 }' E E4 j	• 1982 Toyota Cressida - j6 `+ A0 Y8 d1 j D+ h5 z
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE ! E: A9 A( T) [ z+ ^2 s I* @	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX0 O B1 Z) I% y9 L
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 8 ^4 v( O# ?7 Z	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 2 k6 ^0 x0 C: S2 s8 q, B* J
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR57 s5 x# k, f0 e9 V \|9 U! ^	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 8 j1 v y! m( I/ V
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX% Z8 [4 I4 ~5 g" U, }: p/ \|; `: t	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5- o4 u1 }& D5 D) b0 s2 a/ c- P
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ; P2 D! X" I% h6 c" i r8 P	• 1981 Toyota Tercel ' z2 v) r7 q1 @8 r
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS' ]9 y% O* R. q' F J; A: Y	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 , i# j; i5 T( H$ K
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX % u* X) ` I$ c* }- r	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 G# D3 R" t! Y$ V
• 1997 Toyota T-100 + j% ]; ^( ~9 J# n	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX% x8 g2 H8 r* x5 y) [5 n
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 j! Z W0 W% O- p- }5 M	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 9 C, f. ]4 v/ ]* z
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE # _# I$ I5 \* z5 m	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT# Z9 y# F: o1 K8 q. @# ~) c
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 `7 k, }% h4 w9 Z6 {	• 1980 Toyota Corolla : Z/ R7 d; x9 D4 E& o. l1 t, ]
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 3 X# t1 W, X( I, \: ^	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ; R# }; s: S7 ] e
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 @2 X& y0 U& O7 V, [, E' L5 q4 W	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe3 \8 U# G% }6 [$ D* W* b$ k
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL7 G3 y( N5 E% ?+ c# Y3 G: ]% b	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 1 H, i8 R, X1 N+ z
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE & v7 {8 i4 `; n" T	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST # o- r' p% u0 u! t( [6 {; O
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ' M' ^) J" f1 ~" j* F	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury2 \) l8 `5 v( ]8 D/ W( X; \|
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE3 K* K- o, {% q9 w	• 1980 Toyota Tercel " u) o) R5 L- y$ g* ~$ }
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE # J. ^/ e2 L o m8 p) [0 @% S	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5! G1 d* j; \1 {5 o4 O4 N2 C- c1 c0 \- R
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 3 y- I! g8 _& T* e- R+ S	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe3 {: [2 Q* C. }
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE 8 H [3 [* u! n% T9 K	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 ' T* D% m4 n! K y
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR58 T0 ?! K8 O1 l) C7 l+ U

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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8 P, b$ t2 P' B8 o9 Y如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：1 v1 q* m) l' i3 E! y
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE. n; Z2 r- C1 V0 M A, D
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
2 M/ r/ n$ c6 K&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
5 Y* j. l& \: i+ w4 XApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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6 [8 p+ H* y: f0 ^0 }- F- M' w( h9 P0 p8 r3 c1 b2 ]6 }
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
8 E/ F6 ?- C1 @8 d7 O) R+ y# H
; A/ r" C* ] H0 Y/ c由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：+ V' Y) i1 r$ s# S0 \; y; ]

! a! O, k5 R+ P1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；: \/ K, x0 {6 l7 l4 b
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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