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华人请愿书要求终止外国人来加旅游生孩子获得加拿大公民身份

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9 o6 w- f  {& |! H1 g. X) t数千加拿大人已经在一封电子请愿书签名,敦促政府限制外国人在加拿大生育的婴儿自动获得公民身份的权力以便终止所谓的“生孩子旅游”。
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( U9 D( s) z$ c这项请愿本周由BC保守党议员,前内阁部长黄陈小萍呈递给加拿大国会。7 H% A9 j$ a" l$ d3 ^6 O3 M2 F

3 I4 _3 {8 R, O, G. V这封请愿书的8886位签名者要求改变加拿大的在本土出生即获得公民身份的法律,他们说,这项法律助长一种滥用法律获取好处的行为,这种行为就是没有加拿大身份的外国孕妇来加拿大生孩子,然后他们的孩子自动获得加拿大公民身份。3 Q. J+ D+ M  g' f; |
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黄陈小萍说,这种外国孕妇来加拿大生孩子的问题在她所代表的Richmond Centre 区特别严重,其他大城市,如多伦多和卡尔加里也很严重。
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她说,“月子楼”, 有时也被叫作“孕妇旅馆”如雨后春笋般出现,专为外国孕妇提供食宿服务。有些人正在等待获得享受医疗保险的资格, 而另一些人则自己支付医院的费用。4 A) r; m& K" B8 o$ H- |4 J
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“移民和多元化使加拿大独具特色,同时, 保护我们移民体制的公平和公正,保证新移民加入我们国家的方式是公平的也是非常重要的”,黄陈小萍在一封电子信中说。
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这封请愿书提到,加拿大是仅有的两个还没有启动终止自动获得公民身份的发达国家之一, 尽管问题泛滥严重。另一个国家是美国,在那里,总统竞选人川普提出了有争议的要求终止“锚婴儿”的问题
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0 y$ a$ s7 G$ N" Y生孩子旅游的问题也在其他国家成了引人注目的问题,英国没有出生即可获得公民身份的法律, 但英国首相特蕾莎·梅最近建议在英国的医院实行孕妇护照查验, 以便打击数量不断增长的来占英国医院免费服务便宜的外国孕妇。
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请愿书说,外国人来加拿大生孩子旅游,而加拿大纳税人要为此付出巨大代价,包括医疗,教育,和其他社会服务。 孩子18岁后, 有些就可以担保父母和其他家庭成员移民加拿大。
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CBCNEWS
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Petition to Parliament calls for end to automatic citizenship to end 'birth tourism'   g: G" U( {2 K5 z0 t+ x
Once 18, a baby born in Canada can sponsor parents and other family members for citizenship
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6 }+ v  s# m# |. k# uThousands of Canadians have signed an electronic petition urging the government to restrict automatic citizenship rights for babies born in Canada to foreigners in an effort to stop what they call "birth tourism."2 ?9 Q% n$ ^0 b2 ^4 K0 j

* N# M( q. j8 d! V6 X7 ?4 qThe petition was presented in Parliament this week by B.C. Conservative MP and former cabinet minister Alice Wong.
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. z* a* h% ]) X, GThe 8,886 signatories want to change Canada's birthright citizenship law they say "enables an abusive and exploitative practice" where "expectant mothers who are foreign nationals with no status in Canada can gain automatic citizenship for their children born within Canada."/ @% e( ^! v- H1 x4 T" z% s# ]

$ d' ~4 ~0 Q+ Y) RWong said the issue is "significant" in her riding of Richmond Centre, as well as other large cities like Toronto and Calgary' R0 x) l9 C" R2 Y
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She said "birth houses," which are sometimes dubbed "maternity motels," have sprouted up, operating as temporary lodging for pregnant women from other countries. Some are waiting to qualify for health insurance, while others pay for the hospital services, Wong said.- o, W- N2 _! a& U
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"Immigration and our diversity is what makes Canada unique. It is also important to protect the integrity of our immigration system and ensure that new Canadians join our country in a way that is fair," she said in an email.
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& ~0 n, k# ~; }/ @; aThe petition notes that Canada is one of only two developed countries that have not moved to end automatic citizenship due to "widespread abuse.") [4 X9 ?; P: {. [$ T/ M/ ~
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The other is the U.S., where Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has controversially called for an end to "anchor babies."; x, t& M$ `! e0 B

. {' N. W0 \; dBut the issue of "birth tourism" is flaring up in other countries as well. The U.K. does not have birthright citizenship, but British Prime Minister Theresa May recently suggested establishing passport checks on pregnant women at hospitals to crack down on the growing number travelling from other countries to take advantage of free hospital services.
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6 a5 g! ?0 ?: x- `+ t) O'Nothing's right about it'
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The petition says the practice of birth tourism can be costly to taxpayers for health and education and other social services. Once 18 years old, someone born in Canada can sponsor parents and other family members.# ~  \' @9 n, R) [- q
Kerry Starchuk, a resident of Richmond, B.C. who launched the petition, said Canadian citizenship should not be automatically granted when neither parent has any status or ties to the country., }1 t/ R6 L( d

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"Nothing's right about it," she said. "It needs to stop or more and more people will take advantage of the loophole."4 v0 F# ?* E" c; Y1 t  v2 T

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, Z) `" p/ v1 y, c( m% {9 f; nThe government has 45 days to formally respond to the petition, but Camille Edwards, spokeswoman for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Minister John McCallum, said no change is in the works.2 G* |7 t0 C9 \; A* {3 v
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"Children born in Canada to parents who are temporarily in the country (except children of diplomats, other representatives or employees in Canada of a foreign government) are automatically Canadian citizens under the Citizenship Act," she said in an email. "There is no current plan to change this policy."
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4 N+ I) w! D4 \5 `The Immigration Ministry does not collect data related to this issue.; I4 b9 Q$ X# ^9 p* J
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Statistics Canada shows the number of births in Canada to mothers of residence outside Canada climbed from 247 in 2008 to 699 in 2012, the last year figures are available. But those numbers could include some Canadians who live abroad, but return to Canada to give birth.! o# d' K6 S9 }+ x+ w% U8 X+ {2 {0 _

* T, q- b3 {6 j3 gLori Cascaden, media relations manager for B.C.'s Ministry of Health, said non-resident births account for approximately two per cent of the 44,000 babies born in the province each year. She said residents of other countries give birth in Canada for a variety of reasons, including premature or unexpected labour./ I  O: `6 J* g/ {, T

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She said the top priority is to ensure all babies are safely welcomed to the world, no matter where they are from. But non-residents must pay all the associated costs, with revenue put back into the system.3 {1 {: D# G# n$ T5 |

* j6 {% u: {' U' t: [* w! A0 ]"The ministry in no way endorses or supports the marketing of maternity tourism," Cascaden said, adding that "Immigration Canada should be responding to allegations of someone coming to Canada for the sole purpose of giving birth."
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B.C. has an eligibility, compliance and enforcement unit that monitors this issue, she said.
' w3 F2 F; ]6 U/ H8 {3 }'People should always be honest about the purpose of their visit when applying to come to Canada'- Lindsay Wemp, immigration ministry spokeswoman
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Immigration spokeswoman Lindsay Wemp said all visitors must meet the requirements for temporary residence under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act." `1 C  {% T' G# o

+ k! o4 u, }: u* @8 a) xVisa applications are considered on a case-by-case basis, with decisions made by highly trained visa officers.4 W" L  t/ b  y* j: z
"Visa officers look at many factors in assessing whether an applicant is a genuine temporary resident. All applications from around the world are assessed equally, regardless of their country of origin," Wemp said.
5 N6 L5 j2 ~/ G- Q"People should always be honest about the purpose of their visit when applying to come to Canada temporarily, as it is a serious crime to lie on an application, or to send false information or documents, when dealing with Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. This is called 'misrepresentation.'"
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If a person provides false information or documents, the ministry will refuse their application.
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Be charged with a crime.
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林灵 发表于 2016-10-25 16:26; f0 [: t5 @6 @" P1 A
孕妇生孩子住院时需要花钱的吧,而且花的比加拿大居民要多得多吧?医院应该很高兴有这种自费的住院者呢。孩 ...

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外国孕妇在爱德蒙顿住院生孩子,住院费一天三千加元。韩国有钱人也喜欢来加拿大生孩子,他们可能考虑后路问题较多,一旦南北朝鲜有战事,孩子将来有后路。我认识的一家韩国人半年前女儿(女儿和我女儿是UA大学同学加挚友)来爱城生孩子,一个多月后,小孩出生证和加拿大护照办好后就回韩国了。3 t* ~; l6 Z8 W( h3 P# I
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黑人和穆斯林没有老华侨那种艰苦奋斗的基因,也没有老华侨吃苦耐劳,省吃俭用,奋发图强的精神和传统, 实际上华人,韩国人,日本人来得越多对加拿大越好,加拿大自由党政府不请和少请黑人和穆斯林来加拿大对加拿大的经济发展和社会安全最好。
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-10-25 13:10 | 显示全部楼层
父母是外国人,不须为加拿大社会做任何贡献,不用交一分钱税,把孩子生在加拿大,如果再把孩子留在加拿大的亲戚朋友家,孩子就可享受免费医疗,免费小学到高中的教育,以及所有加拿大公民可以享受的待遇。真是一本万利,聪明至极。时代变了,一个国家的法律如果一成不变是不行的,美国的江河日下,快速衰落既是一例!* M2 Q' l3 Q( ]9 t
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同意上述意见!应该修订法律
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老乡见老乡,背后开一枪。
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" Q, \% h& Y5 Y% G* @中国人多点总好过别的族裔多点儿吧,在这儿生子的都是有钱的,总好过更多的难民来吧。这些人不来,多出的名额不也给难民了吗,所以有意思吗。

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wantU  在2016-10-25 15:17  送朵鲜花  并说:我非常同意你的观点,送朵鲜花鼓励一下
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中国人多点总好过别的族裔多点儿吧,在这儿生子的都是有钱的,总好过更多的难民来吧。这些人不来,多出的名 ...

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你说的有道理。中国人生的孩子至少是自己养, 那些黑人和穆斯林难民一家生一大群孩子,不仅孩子要加拿大纳税人养,孩子的父母也要加拿大纳税人养,而且政府还不敢不养。我们华人实际上是最勤奋的老实人。七月份到郊外小镇,看到爱城正在建造宏大华丽穆斯林大清真寺,不知道谁出的钱,黑人和穆斯林是爱城人口增长最快最大的人口,我们生活的环境正在快速变化!希望华人社区团结,不断发展壮大!4 ^) f3 B% n/ f) R
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发表于 2016-10-25 15:01 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
SB只会对华人狠

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wantU  在2016-10-25 15:05  送朵鲜花  并说:我非常同意你的观点,送朵鲜花鼓励一下
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发表于 2016-10-25 15:02 | 显示全部楼层
第一 请问外国人来加旅游生孩子获得加拿大公民身份的具体数据来源在哪里可以查到?1 W) I' O' I4 Z
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第二 每年因此获得公民身份的孩子有多少,占所有出生公民的比例?% {8 j7 {- \# T. i0 ]* E
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第三 每年因此获得公民身份的孩子(父母是中国人)有多少,占所有因此获得公民身份的孩子(父母是外国人)的比例?2 z. \9 X! ?' O: m: O

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老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
把此类SB丢到监狱里,让黑人群奸,就会意识还是华人好些,
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本帖最后由 闲着没事 于 2016-10-25 15:16 编辑
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不反对,
. P) e3 [6 v8 Y( O同胞越多越好。6 m! O* I% D% s4 r8 z# f" d. e
人家愿意骨肉分开,也是莫大的牺牲。
+ @* `  W+ g( R* P( l2 h8 F$ U何况文章有误导,生在这的非公民移民的子女,即便有亲属朋友在加拿大帮忙,也一样不能免费教育的。好处不多。
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发表于 2016-10-25 16:26 | 显示全部楼层
孕妇生孩子住院时需要花钱的吧,而且花的比加拿大居民要多得多吧?医院应该很高兴有这种自费的住院者呢。孩子生下来是加拿大人,人家将来会为加拿大做贡献啊。如果父母在中国挣了足够多的钱,中国告诉加拿大后(不是有新的条约么),加拿大政府也不会给这个孩子太多福利吧。
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我也赞成中国人多一些好。不喜欢不知感恩的难民,如果那些难民都像以前的老华人一样努力工作,还是很支持加拿大接受难民的。
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1 O( ~" ~2 S; M9 l, ~% C我认为该提案不合理。
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美国,加拿大实行本地出生者,自动获得公民资格,这对招揽人才,留住人才,是有好处的。: `' H2 s' v. _
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有人愿看到自家孩子淹没在穆黑海洋里吗。为什么总有这种SB和败类?生要多生!
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港台这帮渣滓见不得中国人多。
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不仅当地华人要多生,而且要引进大陆。华人的孩子在这块土地才有未来!
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黄陈小萍这个老娘们专门和中国人过不去。那些孕妇不想让下一代一样受苦,漂洋过海生孩子已经很不容易了,还要被这老娘们背后捅一刀。
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支持华人壮大
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jsun 发表于 2016-10-25 17:50) O8 a% X/ ^6 u" `5 ]) r- `  E
黄陈小萍这个老娘们专门和中国人过不去。那些孕妇不想让下一代一样受苦,漂洋过海生孩子已经很不容易了,还 ...

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发表于 2016-10-27 12:45 | 显示全部楼层
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黄陈小萍,加拿大联邦国会议员,多元文化国会秘书,保守党人,来自大温哥华地区华人人口占多数的列治文市。
/ m" C# p8 l% ^" B3 `出生于中国香港,祖籍广东汕头市潮南区陈店镇,于上世纪80年代来到加拿大,是温哥华潮州会馆副会长。
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Windermere 发表于 2016-10-25 22:00; C8 P- N3 W; _1 y9 M3 m
这老娘们是添洋人腚沟

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发表于 2016-10-27 17:34 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
希望华人社区团结,不断发展壮大!
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同言同羽 置业良晨
支持华人壮大
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其他种族的人还都没有发声,你去请那门子的愿?看到多几个同胞总比看到满街都是包头包脑的舒心些吧.
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发表于 2016-10-28 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
自己人搞自己人,难怪中国人没有老印在这里吃得开。
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