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Ambleside/Windermere 的各位,发现那个正在建的巨型通讯塔了吗?安全隐患

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发表于 2014-4-4 12:27 | 显示全部楼层
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通信塔的批准在前。教训是不是就是在买房买地的时候要先查查附近有没有已经批准要建的你不喜欢的物件?!
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发表于 2014-4-4 12:36 | 显示全部楼层
wec080 发表于 2014-4-4 13:27
, \4 |- k# e& H1 s2 T+ ~通信塔的批准在前。教训是不是就是在买房买地的时候要先查查附近有没有已经批准要建的你不喜欢的物件?!

) W* Z3 o# H4 |0 nit is hard. Even if you check the city's zoning plan, it only shows you the type of usage of the land.* {' m, n6 Y* C. V( S; r  U0 _( C
if the church decides to build the tower or anything similar, they only have to apply the permit few months in advance.
; C& d9 f% W& \the church at Terwillegar is the best example!
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发表于 2014-4-4 13:09 | 显示全部楼层
ah_cho 发表于 2014-4-4 12:36 7 E0 l6 ~# e0 _
it is hard. Even if you check the city's zoning plan, it only shows you the type of usage of the l ...

/ e+ d0 H  ~6 @& {那就不要买靠教堂的啊
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发表于 2014-4-4 13:11 | 显示全部楼层
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小黄 发表于 2014-4-4 14:09 3 q7 Q& ~3 R4 }4 X
那就不要买靠教堂的啊

+ M- g/ e& W+ u- d- v- F: T, Y% qDr Wong, you are right.
9 X# \% O' e1 A5 z/ U) p3 pWe wouldn't pick a house that is close to any church, school, police station, fire hall and hospital.
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发表于 2014-4-4 20:33 | 显示全部楼层
和通讯塔距离近的居民, 平均 受到的辐射更小
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发表于 2014-4-4 21:03 | 显示全部楼层
ah_cho 发表于 2014-4-4 14:11 + U6 ~- Y! n/ V: }9 c
Dr Wong, you are right.4 m' n( N8 z5 j) B; T! R$ w
We wouldn't pick a house that is close to any church, school, police stat ...

: b& T3 _3 D( p' s5 c8 i# w' I) r房子近教堂警察局确实不太好,近学校不是很好吗?小孩上学方便,还是学区房
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发表于 2014-4-4 21:16 | 显示全部楼层
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陈海峰 发表于 2014-4-4 22:03
% q' C. t% ~7 u" r2 B房子近教堂警察局确实不太好,近学校不是很好吗?小孩上学方便,还是学区房

0 ~2 F$ ^) k# n# m. Y, N7 |8 W如果沒小孩就不太好,上學放學交通繁忙,車子超多
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发表于 2014-4-5 10:19 | 显示全部楼层
不是说穷得像教堂的老鼠吗?这儿的教堂咋有这么多闲钱买地阿?以前住别的省好像没这样,不过也可能我没注意。
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发表于 2014-4-5 14:34 | 显示全部楼层
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刚才开车经过,看见工人正在安装上面的设备
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发表于 2014-4-5 20:45 | 显示全部楼层
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Susannahuang 发表于 2014-3-30 23:21
+ ]' u+ P1 N2 U, S- P不用太悲观,23Ave 在Terwillergar 和Rabbit Hills 都有这个信号塔。 政府说不会影响身体健康。当然没有最好 ...

$ j" D5 d/ ~  w% M但看上去ambleside这个比23 AVE 那个要大多了高多了。
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发表于 2014-4-5 20:48 | 显示全部楼层
黑金 发表于 2014-4-1 22:27
$ G4 ?3 z0 C% a2 jrabbit hill靠近save on food 这有一个塔,就在magrath 旁边,也没见房子难卖,也没见豪宅贬值

$ q3 i3 G  c8 S影响还是有的,不过主要是紧靠的那些condo, townhouse and duplex.
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发表于 2014-4-7 12:07 | 显示全部楼层
定海神针一般矗立着。
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发表于 2014-4-7 12:24 | 显示全部楼层
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h284611 发表于 2014-4-4 20:33
: s( n4 Y% ?/ E& k* N' f0 q和通讯塔距离近的居民, 平均 受到的辐射更小

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发表于 2014-4-7 16:04 | 显示全部楼层
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陈海峰 发表于 2014-4-4 22:03
0 C8 f' W1 @# e4 _+ b! U! q# N房子近教堂警察局确实不太好,近学校不是很好吗?小孩上学方便,还是学区房

3 n% ?9 c+ R: ^近而不能太近,10分钟左右步行的距离,挨着的话,交通太挤了
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发表于 2014-4-7 21:58 | 显示全部楼层
是不是也有一点好处:起到了避雷针的作用?
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发表于 2014-4-9 08:51 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
无所谓啦,要怕就买靠河的,绝对优势来自: iPhone客户端
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发表于 2014-4-9 19:52 | 显示全部楼层
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小黄 发表于 2014-4-7 13:24

) ?" |6 W9 P% X5 s实话实说, 您兜里的手机对身体带来的辐射剂量是通讯塔的很多倍. 通讯塔更近, 手机发出的辐射越弱& B1 M8 H/ |% H8 t% ?# {( ]/ j
如果您不用手机, 就当我啥也没说
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发表于 2014-4-9 21:32 | 显示全部楼层
h284611 发表于 2014-4-9 19:52
3 T8 u- I* b2 v9 B. g9 |实话实说, 您兜里的手机对身体带来的辐射剂量是通讯塔的很多倍. 通讯塔更近, 手机发出的辐射越弱. ]$ {& g7 p6 M0 S0 t/ A9 I8 _
如果您 ...
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请提高中文水平,本贴说的是基站辐射,不是手机辐射。. W9 V1 ]3 y% K* b2 t
何况有的居民未必随身带手机,好比小孩子。
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发表于 2014-4-10 21:25 | 显示全部楼层
加拿大的事情就是不太好办呀。一天到晚用手机的人不让在自个家附近建基站;一天到晚离了石油没法活的人不让在自个家地里通石油管道.............
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发表于 2014-4-10 23:03 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
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ah_cho 发表于 2014-4-4 13:36
2 Y' B3 z) d9 B7 U/ d0 k5 t3 ]: |it is hard. Even if you check the city's zoning plan, it only shows you the type of usage of the l ...
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找前后左右,而且要在两排房以内都是独立房lot的。两排开外有商业,公寓,市政,综合类用地的不考虑!
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发表于 2014-4-10 23:05 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
h284611 发表于 2014-4-4 21:33! q* D. M1 R! a  u' \# j& V
和通讯塔距离近的居民, 平均 受到的辐射更小

% D! T. q, h1 `: u( F$ E$ ^都不是受辐射的问题,已经有证明五十米开外也就是wifi的辐射量。是房产resale value的问题
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发表于 2014-4-16 18:54 | 显示全部楼层
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下面是PM的信。
' j# o% M$ z7 Y( @Dear Ms. Huang,: }2 n: q' T' Q- b3 t: e. ~

, Z; O, W: V: ^4 e1 YThank you for your recent correspondence regarding the new Cell Phone Tower erected at the Ambleside Baptist Church.  I appreciate your taking the time to share your concerns. My office has been in contact with the Minister of Industry, the Honourable James Moore’s office about this matter and I will share any information I receive with you at the earliest opportunity.  In the meantime, I would like to share with you recent changes made to Canada’s Cell Phone Tower Policy. " o! x+ A! n% l! ]3 n0 |
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As your Member of Parliament I recognize that local residents have concerns about proposed antenna towers in their neighborhood, and the process with which these towers are approved.
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9 t1 M7 X+ R& g' l& UCanadians deserve to be heard on where new cell tower are placed in their communities.  It is important that local governments play a central role in identifying potential locations for new antenna towers.   Our government believes that local residents need to be at the centre of this process, which is why we introduced changes to Canada’s Antenna Tower Siting policy.
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The changes guiding the installation of new antenna towers will include requirements that telecommunication companies consult communities on all commercial tower proposals, regardless of height; ensure home owners are well informed of upcoming consultations, and that the tower is built within three years of consulting with communities.' Q- S1 Q# R8 s, d: z
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These measures build on the government’s current tower sharing policies that require companies to first look at sharing existing tower infrastructure, whenever they can, to reduce the number of new towers needed in each community. / `7 i6 c( q$ m$ `

6 i; z& K9 p1 ?1 cIndustry Canada's cell tower procedures apply to all companies that want to install a new tower. The procedures outline the steps that must be taken before a tower can be built, and the guidelines for ensuring local residents are involved in the process.1 o& o/ p$ l; t! g, r
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Under the government’s previous tower policy, established in 2008, a company was only required to consult with local residents when it was planning to build a tower higher than 15 metres.  There was no time limit on when the new tower needed to be built following these consultations, and in many cases residents felt they were not being given adequate notice of the details of the consultation or the plan to build a tower.5 f9 ?6 q; ?  T- i3 ^  V( p' {0 ]
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To help address local concerns about the number of new towers being built in their communities, our government announced changes to the tower policy in March 2013 that reinforced the requirement that any company wanting to build a new tower had to first look at sharing an existing tower or using an existing structure for its antenna.
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The improvements announced to the Antenna Tower Siting Policy will further strengthen the requirements for the wireless industry to consult with local residents, increase transparency for municipalities and improve communications throughout the tower siting process., {# S* F% |! |' F
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The tower citing process includes:
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Before a new tower can be proposed, the company is required to look at sharing an existing tower, or placing its antenna on an existing building or structure. This helps reduce the number of new towers that are built.
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If there are no suitable towers that can be shared or other structures that can be used, the company can begin the process of building a new tower.% U1 O. {- L. O: C# D

& d& W  [" f' W6 nThese steps apply to new structures as well as changes to existing structures.: @' O  Y" |- y1 ~7 P$ d
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2. Contacting local authorities; L) `  r+ \' _0 }9 c
First, the company must contact all local authorities who have a stake in the installation of the new tower.  This includes the local land-use authority (usually the municipality) and, in the case of broadcasters, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunication Commission.  It must also respect Aboriginal or treaty rights and land claims." {7 j2 O- b$ D8 l6 a

. I+ e4 ]( k0 W3 P+ Q8 Y$ [3. Consulting the community
4 H( J" W5 k, HNext, the company must notify residents and engage the community in a way that ensures their participation.  Communications such as mail and letters to residents about the consultation must be clearly addressed so they are not confused with junk mail.  The company needs to give residents at least 30 days to provide comments.) A1 H7 n( b  U, j- n5 f
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The company is then required to respond to all reasonable and relevant concerns and make efforts to address them. It also needs to provide a copy of all public comments to Industry Canada.
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) M3 a) n+ _+ a2 ^. _: xCommunity consultations are required for the construction of all new commercial antenna towers, regardless of height.+ I4 I$ g9 p% J& V% @; A8 L

% K+ `, f! G1 }# `. Q5 c, P4. Building a new tower
  H3 l7 U! Q$ f$ o0 R. sLastly, following the consultation and the addressing of any reasonable and relevant concerns, and assuming the municipality supports the new tower, the company can begin construction.  The new tower is required to be built within three years of the community consultations.
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6 V/ ]; a/ o1 v$ n6 i5 X: ]If there is an impasse between the municipality and the company, Industry Canada gets involved. The department either refers the parties to mediation or examines the facts and makes a decision. Impasses are rare; Industry Canada gets involved in less than 0.1 per cent of all cases.& v6 E6 C' s5 m& X; k; L6 h
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For more information on Canada’s new Cell Phone Tower Policy, I welcome you to access the Industry Canada website by using the following link www.ic.gc.ca/antenna.
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If you have any further questions or concerns about Canada’s Cell Phone Tower Policy or the Federal Government’s role in the Ambleside cell tower project, I am happy to speak with you. 5 ?- V7 m6 |0 ]

0 U, X. ~. r( }: P1 a, W/ P9 v' LThank you again for taking the time to share your views with me; I hope that my response is helpful.  Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future should you have any further questions or concerns." D) p# Z6 z4 Q: H# D/ K
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Yours truly,
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James Rajotte, MP, H' b1 _8 `, n* Y3 P
Edmonton-Leduc
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发表于 2014-4-16 19:25 | 显示全部楼层
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教堂的回信:
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* H8 x0 {* W& p+ K. @  KThank you for your questions and concerns voiced in your recent email about
2 ~: t0 V5 q9 r0 r% fthe newly erected cell tower on our church property. Please know that we
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questions that neighbors in the Ambleside community have raised.' k9 i* Q4 W6 n! p2 K# w6 e
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Please be aware that though you may feel this tower was raised up overnight$ k1 A" x$ {, n, w) J
and without the proper input from stakeholders in the process, we have owned
4 x$ G+ i" D( }/ v3 Y) Jthe land in Ambleside for more than a decade and have walked through this
, p( y4 {- E) yprocess for more than five years now that has brought us to this point. We
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the Ambleside community that has grown up around us over that time and from! j" g: \; l5 D. K% y
the city of Edmonton as required.; A- z/ D! b/ N% O; {

& t! g* `9 L8 t* p/ rI hope that this email and the Rogers Communication letter address your
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Pastor Robert Sandford
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Church
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发表于 2014-4-16 19:54 | 显示全部楼层
Mickey2008 发表于 2014-3-30 23:38 . L2 ^9 {: c3 Z
刚刚咨询了一个朋友,关键是发射天线的角度和距离会决定在家里的接收到的信号强度。低于-60db(和家中wifi信 ...

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没有好处是肯定的。虽然我只是化学工程师,但是我很了解,任何涉及辐射危害都要谈论两个问题:一是辐射强度问题,2是辐射周期也就是辐射多长时间的问题,对于houe,这个辐射是永久的辐射,也就是长远的,那么允许的辐射值就应该低很多。具体值需要查加拿大标准(codes), 但是没有好处是100%的。
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发表于 2014-4-18 12:26 | 显示全部楼层
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兰君子 发表于 2014-4-10 22:25
: E& h! l5 J# Y" ]加拿大的事情就是不太好办呀。一天到晚用手机的人不让在自个家附近建基站;一天到晚离了石油没法活的人不让 ...
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如果你家附近有基站和油管而你又很喜欢很自豪的话,有人可能不会这么认为的,这少我根本就不考虑这些房子无论多便宜。
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发表于 2014-4-18 12:28 | 显示全部楼层
醉酒当歌 发表于 2014-4-16 20:54 : l7 U  ?" T3 E
没有好处是肯定的。虽然我只是化学工程师,但是我很了解,任何涉及辐射危害都要谈论两个问题:一是辐射 ...
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虽然我是做数据的,但是这么一大条树在房子旁边本身就很破坏风景。1 b4 D. b2 \$ x
再说还会有辐射,这就简直接受不了了。再加上如果有噪音影响的话....
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