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发表于 2011-1-12 11:18 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Lifestyle_5#articleTabs%3Darticle
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got this link from a co-worker, haven't read it through, not sure about the point, just share it with others.
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发表于 2011-1-12 11:44 | 显示全部楼层
看过,还research了一下作者,这女的真牛4 G% B7 `# r" m# _2 g5 Z
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观点可鉴,但是过犹不及。
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发表于 2011-1-12 12:27 | 显示全部楼层
我希望我家娃gym也拿A,drama就算了
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发表于 2011-1-12 12:48 | 显示全部楼层
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看过,觉得这女的写这个文章有点哗众取宠的味道,因为她非常迎合老外心理的把东方母亲的形象浓墨重彩的,甚至不惜用夸张的手法表现出来。: @9 D0 h8 {/ d9 ^( z4 k
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东西方手法要结合,取长补短是肯定的。 这个文章也许本身就不是为了取长补短,而是给人们提供一个纯粹东方手法的模板,让有心的家长自己去汲取里头的有用素材。 我觉得相对文章本身,里面的读者comments 更好看,/ h* n6 Z; l5 ?) R) l2 f& a' |
比如这个
% ^/ }$ D; a. X  g  |2 F% [Place the "permissive western" approach with the wrong child and you'll get a troublesome thug. With the right child, you get one of the many inventors and business pioneers that have shaped world history for the past few hundred years.# P8 f( X8 e/ g  I+ k- V: X

* b/ V# B1 Z0 x. [( b7 N- H. IUse the "demanding eastern" approach on the wrong child, and you get a suicidal mess or someone who is so robotic that they can't function in society. Do it on the right person, you'll take an otherwise directionless person and teach them much needed focus and discipline.
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发表于 2011-1-12 13:13 | 显示全部楼层
‘Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior’ fuels parenting controversy January 12, 2011 Nancy J. White Living Reporter Amy Chua’s two daughters were never allowed to attend sleepovers, play any instrument other than the piano or violin, have play dates, watch television or get any grade less than an A. Chua, a Yale University law professor, called her daughter “garbage” for being disrespectful, and she unbendingly insisted on three hours of music practice a day. This ultrastrict parenting style is why Chinese kids are so successful, insists Chua, the author of the controversial Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother. Her new book has sparked a call-to-arms on websites and blogs, where parents are taking sides on Eastern or Western child rearing. Some call Chua an abuser, others see her as a hero. An excerpt in the Wall Street Journal, titled “Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior,” has garnered more than 3,400 online comments. “I am aghast that she seems to be proud of carrying on the ‘old country way.’ This kind of upbringing results in automatons and/or damaged people,” writes one woman. “Amy, you’re awesome,” writes another. “Parents are the ones in charge of their children, not the other way around. I’m sick and tired of hearing Westerners cater to their children and then wonder why the kids are disrespectful brats.” In Toronto, Chua’s mandate for mothers is also causing a stir. “I’m getting emails. It’s going around,” says Karen Sun, executive director of the Chinese Canadian National Council Toronto Chapter. The group considered issuing a statement but decided against it, since the book represents Chua’s personal opinions. “We feel she’s drumming up controversy to sell more books,” says Sun, who finds some of the author’s parenting techniques emotionally abusive. Because of the stereotype of the rigid Chinese parent, Sun’s group last year used parent ambassadors to get a clearer sense of child-rearing in the community. Some parents felt it was important to be strict and maintain the kind of homework schedule they had been used to in China, she explains. But all the parents they worked with seemed to seek a middle path, incorporating Canadian-style parenting and the school system. As for her own upbringing in Toronto, Sun says she enjoyed lots of play dates and watched a lot of television. But any grade under 80 per cent was definitely frowned upon. “I was top of my class until junior high school, then I fell to second,” remembers Sun with a laugh. “Another Chinese girl beat me out.” http://www.facebook.com/l/753acdI9MJ9vc-q7xFFaBYKdliA;www.parentcentral.ca/parent/articlePrint/920534       
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‘Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior’ fuels parenting controversy
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7 K0 G0 p- r9 ]Amy Chua’s two daughters were never allowed to attend sleepovers, play any instrument other than the piano or violin, have play dates, watch television or get any grade less than an A.5 B+ d) u, A5 d7 P  Q6 s

; ^& F6 |& [/ c( o& BChua, a Yale University law professor, called her daughter “garbage” for being disrespectful, and she unbendingly insisted on three hours of music practice a day. This ultrastrict parenting style is why Chinese kids are so successful, insists Chua, the author of the controversial Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.
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Her new book has sparked a call-to-arms on websites and blogs, where parents are taking sides on Eastern or Western child rearing. Some call Chua an abuser, others see her as a hero.
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An excerpt in the Wall Street Journal, titled “Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior,” has garnered more than 3,400 online comments.$ d: t( u& P2 u4 \9 u9 f, _  o

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“Amy, you’re awesome,” writes another. “Parents are the ones in charge of their children, not the other way around. I’m sick and tired of hearing Westerners cater to their children and then wonder why the kids are disrespectful brats.”* |! p$ R3 u! ~. p  R
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In Toronto, Chua’s mandate for mothers is also causing a stir. “I’m getting emails. It’s going around,” says Karen Sun, executive director of the Chinese Canadian National Council Toronto Chapter.
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The group considered issuing a statement but decided against it, since the book represents Chua’s personal opinions. “We feel she’s drumming up controversy to sell more books,” says Sun, who finds some of the author’s parenting techniques emotionally abusive.- }* [6 q6 \: w, W& `1 P
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Because of the stereotype of the rigid Chinese parent, Sun’s group last year used parent ambassadors to get a clearer sense of child-rearing in the community. Some parents felt it was important to be strict and maintain the kind of homework schedule they had been used to in China, she explains. But all the parents they worked with seemed to seek a middle path, incorporating Canadian-style parenting and the school system.5 k& O, I. S3 S, C9 }

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“I was top of my class until junior high school, then I fell to second,” remembers Sun with a laugh. “Another Chinese girl beat me out.”
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发表于 2011-1-12 13:17 | 显示全部楼层
看那些COMMENTS最逗。我觉得作者是用了一种夸张的写法来讲述她观点。有点炒作的感觉。
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发表于 2011-1-12 13:18 | 显示全部楼层
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看过,觉得这女的写这个文章有点哗众取宠的味道,因为她非常迎合老外心理的把东方母亲的形象浓墨重彩的,甚至不惜用夸张的手法表现出来。- N! @/ A" a* H3 ?

. Y7 k% \0 S( G$ k东西方手法要结合,取长补短是肯定的。 这个文章也许本身就不是为了取长补 ...
* J* x" Y( r; e2 ?竹帘儿 发表于 2011-1-12 12:48
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咱俩这回合拍儿了。
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发表于 2011-1-12 13:27 | 显示全部楼层
咱俩这回合拍儿了。( S. A9 ]/ t( _( _( Y. u! s
眉心眉飞 发表于 2011-1-12 13:18

" W/ g" ?2 y: o' S拉!拉上我啊!我也是合拍的!
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发表于 2011-1-12 15:06 | 显示全部楼层
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说实话我就没仔细看,别人的方子再好也未必适合我的娃
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发表于 2011-1-12 18:02 | 显示全部楼层
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i bet this chua lady & her children can't even speak chinese
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发表于 2011-1-12 18:32 | 显示全部楼层
咱俩这回合拍儿了。5 V6 O) |( L. |5 k* `
眉心眉飞 发表于 2011-1-12 13:18
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1 h: Q2 `2 ?* @1 H0 g; p啥意思? 感情以前心里都暗地跟我拧着呢?
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发表于 2011-1-13 10:00 | 显示全部楼层
看过,觉得这女的写这个文章有点哗众取宠的味道,因为她非常迎合老外心理的把东方母亲的形象浓墨重彩的,甚至不惜用夸张的手法表现出来。5 B# G; t0 s; l2 L1 x) }! O1 |: B
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东西方手法要结合,取长补短是肯定的。 这个文章也许本身就不是为了取长补 ...# L6 ~: p- B/ I* f
竹帘儿 发表于 2011-1-12 12:48

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发表于 2011-1-13 11:58 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 BIGWOOOL 于 2011-1-13 12:00 编辑
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如果中式教育是应该被承认的成功式教育,那么为什么国内从来不敢接纳“自闭症和忧郁症”呢?这么狭隘的视野真是白在国外活一回。
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发表于 2011-1-13 11:58 | 显示全部楼层
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看过,觉得这女的写这个文章有点哗众取宠的味道,因为她非常迎合老外心理的把东方母亲的形象浓墨重彩的,甚至不惜用夸张的手法表现出来。" \1 j' M% L+ z- {; Y

/ [  O0 r0 O! k东西方手法要结合,取长补短是肯定的。 这个文章也许本身就不是为了取长补 ...
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4 M9 Z0 Z3 A! I3 @$ ?2 b据说她在书里写的很好,有很冷静客观的分析,取长补短的。这女的背景很牛,不应该只会哗众取宠的空谈。这篇文章的确为了广告效益,哗众取宠,起码现在我去图书馆Hold她的书,已经排到30多位了
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发表于 2011-1-13 14:15 | 显示全部楼层
这女的真牛!耶鲁法学院有头衔的教授啊。。。长得也不错,挺媚的,就是面相凶了点。
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发表于 2011-1-13 16:14 | 显示全部楼层
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这女的真牛!耶鲁法学院有头衔的教授啊。。。长得也不错,挺媚的,就是面相凶了点。2 E0 {* k, \9 X( k  d; a. o) T
邵大头 发表于 2011-1-13 14:15

' B9 w! f, V7 ~5 }; l2 |/ n7 e1 E哈哈,看来只有大头和我一样,看人下菜碟儿。她这个年龄看起来真是很年轻!面相有点厉害,还不至于是凶。另外你看她弹钢琴的女儿的表情,妈呀,好邪恶阿,特别想addams' family里面的女儿
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发表于 2011-1-13 17:12 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈,看来只有大头和我一样,看人下菜碟儿。她这个年龄看起来真是很年轻!面相有点厉害,还不至于是凶。另外你看她弹钢琴的女儿的表情,妈呀,好邪恶阿,特别想addams' family里面的女儿http://2.bp.blogspot.com ...9 L+ }' {* C8 F) _. s! L
三思 发表于 2011-1-13 16:14

5 J( ~) j! n; p" _# l, }" e, O我觉得她长得好看啊,而且特年轻,洋气。 那张全家的照片非常有喜感,不是邪恶,我认为是故意营造出的戏剧,夸张效果的,为的跟整个文章的基调搭配。
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发表于 2011-1-13 17:51 | 显示全部楼层
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哈哈,看来只有大头和我一样,看人下菜碟儿。她这个年龄看起来真是很年轻!面相有点厉害,还不至于是凶。另外你看她弹钢琴的女儿的表情,妈呀,好邪恶阿,特别想addams' family里面的女儿http://2.bp.blogspot.com ...4 s  _  O4 k% |  _$ T2 {3 Y
三思 发表于 2011-1-13 16:14
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嘿嘿,偶是说真心话,对有能耐的人一点脾气也没有咯,更何况这个长得还好。这姑娘怎么长得一点不象她妈,男人说她男人是个帅哥儿,偶没瞧上。# |- M/ Z$ |2 t  [
只是你说面对这样的人,我能接啥话儿呢,男人说类似的女教授要请我吃个饭,我死活不愿去,男人死活要拉我去,还说,人点名找你吃的,我说,我拉不上话,他说,那你就吃,多吃点儿。。。
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发表于 2011-1-13 18:03 | 显示全部楼层
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我觉得她长得好看啊,而且特年轻,洋气。 那张全家的照片非常有喜感,不是邪恶,我认为是故意营造出的戏剧,夸张效果的,为的跟整个文章的基调搭配。
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4 n" V2 h( T" V5 a0 S6 D2 Z- P我是说那个弹钢琴的闺女2 {. |6 x3 o# g1 F
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这个妈本人的长相我挺喜欢的,而且她身材保持的那么瘦,上了年纪的人而言很难得阿。
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嘿嘿,偶是说真心话,对有能耐的人一点脾气也没有咯,更何况这个长得还好。这姑娘怎么长得一点不象她妈,男人说她男人是个帅哥儿,偶没瞧上。
* E& K1 j( F: _2 N1 h只是你说面对这样的人,我能接啥话儿呢,男人说类似的女教授要请我吃 ...
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9 L- f* U; ]  J, j哈哈哈哈,大头你怎么这么逗阿。其实有能耐的人通常很谦和,狂妄自大的通常都是半瓶子醋。. }' h. Q8 E0 S, f

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发表于 2011-1-13 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
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又研究了一下她老公,也很amazing阿, 本身也是耶鲁法学院教授,还出过畅销小说,学习了几年表演想做演员,发现自己没有天赋,又做回律师。这个人的经历很像我的伯子。
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发表于 2011-1-13 18:43 | 显示全部楼层
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哈哈哈哈,大头你怎么这么逗阿。其实有能耐的人通常很谦和,狂妄自大的通常都是半瓶子醋。
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什么男人说她男人是帅哥?是chua的老公吗?还行吧,周正
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8 o& c0 h+ r% q0 k  R别笑话我了,都打听清楚了,跟女教授擦不出半点火花的,估计到时也就剩吃的份咯~
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是,就是她劳工,偶男人说的。
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发表于 2011-1-13 19:00 | 显示全部楼层
我是说那个弹钢琴的闺女
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三思 发表于 2011-1-13 18:03
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你仔细品那张照片,非常像戏剧招贴画,每个人的表情,姿势,都像轻喜剧里的一幕,我一直wonder摄影师怎么捕捉或创作出这么出色的一个瞬间的。
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别笑话我了,都打听清楚了,跟女教授擦不出半点火花的,估计到时也就剩吃的份咯~
( u5 B+ y/ Y4 r嘿嘿,您给贴上照片啦,这个看起来不错啊,很周正啊~  T& c! Q4 Z1 P7 _& \
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邵大头 发表于 2011-1-13 18:43

- P. X" Q) {2 f2 ^咳!妹妹还是单纯!什么人坐在饭桌上不能聊几句啊!再说了,闻道有先后,术业有专攻,见人下菜碟,自来三分熟,所谓三人行必有我师,你就往着装打扮里聊贝!
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发表于 2011-1-13 19:59 | 显示全部楼层
我知道啊。) s9 A7 J3 j4 n$ m8 i
你仔细品那张照片,非常像戏剧招贴画,每个人的表情,姿势,都像轻喜剧里的一幕,我一直wonder摄影师怎么捕捉或创作出这么出色的一个瞬间的。3 i7 g+ T8 a$ b' j
竹帘儿 发表于 2011-1-13 19:00
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即便是造型,小小年纪,能拿出这么股邪劲,了得阿
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发表于 2011-1-13 20:12 | 显示全部楼层
咳!妹妹还是单纯!什么人坐在饭桌上不能聊几句啊!再说了,闻道有先后,术业有专攻,见人下菜碟,自来三分熟,所谓三人行必有我师,你就往着装打扮里聊贝!8 _8 |$ q+ j& e9 L# u, F
三思 发表于 2011-1-13 19:58

1 T9 F# g. f( _0 g9 e) Q哈哈哈,看得我直翻白眼,您老太婆可爱了!你家男人真福气。。。
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咳!妹妹还是单纯!三思 发表于 2011-1-13 19:58
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忽然想到一件事。chua不允许孩子参加学校戏剧表演,可她自己老公当年可是上了好几年表演学校的,不是最后也事业成功,抱得美娇娘了吗?这本身就是她家的悖论阿
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